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okay we're gonna add Seth to the call

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right now and we're gonna talk to him

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and see how his life is going how are

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you doing this is Mike from our big

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mouth obdam and you're on with Joe and

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clumb baby I awesome I I've never been

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greeted with a Ike and applause the

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force sounds like you're wearing

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something skimpy No thank you so much

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for taking the time out of your day to

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talk with us a little bit about your new

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movie and possibly some other topics

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concerning cryptozoology UFOs and the

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paranormal IIT did you as that if they

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congratulations on being nominated the

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actually immediately after that was was

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announced and I was given the award

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someone told me I was the

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cryptozoological version of Tom DeLonge

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winning that UFO award that everyone

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thinks he's totally undeserving of so I

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was like okay I see how this is gonna go

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boy ya know it's pretty cool

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the statue itself is is worth it it's

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it's awesome

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I've never been given an award other

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than one Film Festival Award so if

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nothing else they inflated my ego for

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like the two minutes before my wife

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asked me if that actually meant anything

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no but what's the how big is the award

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is it like a sasquatch it's actually

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yeah it's like 12 feet tall no it's it's

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probably a you know from like the base

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to the top it's like that it's 78 inches

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something like that eight inches nice

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arrest no he's not I don't yeah I'm a

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little confused but I

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I think a gold shuang probably would

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have weirded me out if I saw that so

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thrown I'm very curious about this new

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movie you got coming out clown baby has

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pre-ordered it I'm gonna buy a rare when

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it comes out and I remembered this like

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so when I when I saw the the trailer for

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the invasion on Chestnut Ridge correct

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it's this it's called on Chestnut Ridge

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yeah and I was uh reminding me of I was

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like what is this this sounds familiar

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and I think we're probably right around

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the same age I'm 23 I think you're about

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23 as well and I remember watching

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unsolved mysteries when I was growing up

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and I remember seeing a segment on

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Kecksburg the did that inspire you to

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start this documentary is a huge

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inspiration for the style and tone and

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even the kind of storytelling

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you know mode that we used in this movie

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so and I am a huge unsolved mysteries

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and I've actually been working my way

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back through all the original Robert

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Stack episodes so I as a kid was

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completely unaware of Kecksburg so

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actually the the real inspiration for

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this movie was the work of Stan Gordon

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and the fact that my co-writer on the

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movie Mark masky is a huge Stan Gordon

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and Chestnut Ridge fan and if I would

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have thought of it I would have sent you

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guys in an advance screener so you could

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have watched it with me before we talk

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because I'm curious to know you know

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what what other children in the 80s and

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it's kind of geared toward those people

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like me well I gotta confess I was lying

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was trying to process it when you said

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it and I was like yeah I tell horrible

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jokes

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if you don't mind I would actually like

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to play this about a minute a segment

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from unsolved mysteries talking about

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Kecksburg and see how you feel about

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this and what what they're saying about

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this incident considering everything you

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know now I'll play Robert Stack talking

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about this tonight on the season

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premiere of unsolved mysteries 25 years

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ago something odd fell from the sky and

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crashed in the remote woods near

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Kecksburg Pennsylvania the official Air

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Force report states if nothing was found

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but eyewitnesses claimed a strange cold

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shaped object was secretly removed was

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it their imagination or a government

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cover-up

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Twilight December 9th 1965 a brilliant

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light streaked through the skies over

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Canada and northeastern United States

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thousands of eyewitnesses reported

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seeing its trail which was visible for

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hundreds of miles of every direction

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meanwhile a call went out to all the

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local fire departments soon more than 30

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volunteer fire had gathered at the

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Kecksburg station okay guys listen up

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there's a plane down over the hill we'll

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have teams of three men all right man

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ski bill you come with me Presi you get

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you man get out of here Tom take your

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unit no I'm not sure but I think we all

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gathered at the fire station and your

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report was we had an aircraft that was

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down in the Kecksburg area as hot as I

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was driving over whatever it is it's

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burning and after we got our assignment

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and everybody knew what they were doing

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they took her some pickup trucks off the

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road up here and they dropped us off at

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certain points going off the hill we

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were proceeding through our grid we

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heard the first team which was down in

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front of us radio back we found the

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I'm gonna cut right there there's been a

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lot of rumors of what they actually

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found ranging from a meteor ride to a

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space capsule to a UFO to some kind of

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Russian vehicle as well but whatever it

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was people have claimed that there was

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some pretty strange writing on the side

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of it and the military pretty quickly

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swept in and took it away so if that

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so it's something it's a so it's usually

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called the like the Roswell of the East

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point I you know as cool as the the

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Kecksburg acorn the UFO statue the same

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town is actually the the UFO scene in

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that unsolved mysteries episode actually

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gave it to the town or the village of

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Kecksburg and it's kind of like the

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centerpiece for the village now it's you

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know almost have some like a statue of

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some historical figure and Casper just

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has the unsolved mysteries space acorn

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memorial on the amazing beside of this

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hill there yeah I'm looking at it it

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looks like a giant butt plug it looks

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like it it looks like a poop emoji I

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smiley face on it and that is way to

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looking at it this yeah it was raining

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lot of confusion

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obviously eyewitness people and people

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remember that day very vividly did you

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get a chance to talk to any of these old

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timers about what they may have found or

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what they believe yeah yeah we talked to

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John Key's um here's the thing I'm

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editing like three literally three

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movies at once right now and one of them

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back and with touching up some some

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sections of Boggy Creek monsters so like

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my names are all getting confused

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because we interviewed a guy named John

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adAway in Pond Creek monster and we

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interviewed it got another John in

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invasion and I like hanging up

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last name is because I've been doing

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fagioli but anyway we interviewed at

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least two of the original witnesses and

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we you know that's kind of where the

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movie launches from the state that

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Kecksburg incident so we talked to a

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couple of the people that were there and

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festival just like two months ago or a

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month ago and it's still pretty fresh

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for some of those people that were there

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back then you know fer to actually see

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the the incident kind of unfold but I

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was struck by the fact that even the

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people that I spoke to don't actually

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say they saw a UFO and now granted I

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didn't get to talk to all the witnesses

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but the couple I did you know talk to

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more about like seeing a streak across

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the sky and hearing something crashed in

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the woods you know that kind of stuff

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actually address seeing the the military

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presence kind of come through Kecksburg

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although he didn't actually get get a

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look at the truck that supposed to they

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the trailer so we we spoke to some of

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the original witnesses but you know

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unlike a lot of our films in most of our

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movies Kecksburg would be the sole focus

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of this movie but this is this invasion

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an anthology story so it starts with

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Kecksburg and then it kind of uses that

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as a launching point and just some

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really weird places Stan Gordon does

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he's he's documented a lot of

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interesting things in Pennsylvania and

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when you read some of his books you

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can't help but to come to the conclusion

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because because in the same book he'll

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write about UFO encounters and then

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large hairy creatures or Bigfoot and

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when I'm reading it back the back and

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looking at timelines and almost to me it

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seems like the UFO phenomenon aliens and

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Bigfoot are almost linked and you can't

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really separate them at this point I

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mean definitely on the ridge a lot of

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those things overlap I wouldn't say it's

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all of them are even

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even not even the predominant number but

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reports where they intersect and we have

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story in our film which is the one where

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a witness all this this strange light in

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his field and went up to investigate it

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with two two younger kids and when they

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got up there they saw these two

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bigfoot-like creatures walking along

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this fence line in a field and the guy

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ended up panicking and firing his his

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shotgun at one of them and it kind of

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reached up but when I reached up it it

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basically caught the bullet and as soon

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as as soon as his hand went up and

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stopped the bullet the light the UFO

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kind of disappeared leaving the strange

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illumination on the ground that was

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later seen by a state police officer who

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came out to investigate there you know

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there's all sorts of stories like that

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from the ridge there's there's the kind

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of famous one which is there were these

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two girls waiting for a ride outside of

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their home and they saw this white

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bigfoot-like creature running across a

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street into a woods holding a glowing

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orb basically what they referred to it

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as in a minute after they saw it run

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across the street and down into the

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woods they see this UFO comes streaking

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across the sky and beam of light you

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down into the woods and there's some

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work to that story although we didn't

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get to go into it too much in our film

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but there's there's all kinds of UFO and

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Bigfoot stories on the ridge and and it

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doesn't stop it just Bigfoot

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you know creature sightings there's all

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kind of weird creatures that have been

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spotted along the ridge and we get into

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some of that as well although I did find

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myself drawing the line at one line in

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the script that talked about giant

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iridescent caterpillars I was like I

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just I feel like this might be the point

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where we lose some of our audience well

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I mean there's not it there's been I

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think at least my recollection more of

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course a Bigfoot than giant caterpillars

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that are iridescent just slightly yeah

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it's just a nose a head I

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I kind of like have a you know a little

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thought or a theory going that you know

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Bigfoot or Sasquatch or boots in the

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ground for the UFOs to surround people

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up or you know scare up the local

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populace and they'll come in and gather

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intelligence and a lot kind of stuff who

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knows at this point but when you see a

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couple of them together or all this kind

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of weird phenomenon happening it's it's

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hard not to make a correlation or a leap

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in logic say obviously it's connected

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but there could be no correlation at all

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at this point you've done a lot of

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research into cryptozoology all these

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weird creatures and UFOs in your opinion

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does the US military have any idea of

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what the Sasquatch or Bigfoot is do they

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care I mean I don't think they care

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that's just like personal opinion I mean

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for you no link I think a lot of the

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people we've spoken to who do work in

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national parks or you know have some

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sort of connection to the US military

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either are it are mildly interested

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enough in the subject that they'd like

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to know for themselves that they exist

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or you know they they laughing off like

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most people do but I don't typically buy

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into that you know the conspiracy theory

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kind of stuff although there definitely

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is a weird military aspect to the

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Chestnut Ridge and it's something I

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would have loved to include in the movie

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and originally I planned on there being

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a large chunk of the movie devoted to

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that kind of military aspect and they're

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still kind of is this cover-up angle to

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the film that we get into for a little

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bit with like men and black but we never

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got into to the military angle there's

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actually we interviewed a guy named

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Wayne Pinto who talked about seeing

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strange military vehicles and men

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carrying like soldiers carrying rushing

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Russian weapons like Russian assault

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rifles and a lot of people for some

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reason think that

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some sort of Russian military training

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going on on the on the chestnut Ridge

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and it's not directly connected to the

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Bigfoot sightings but it is weird how

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much goes on on the ridge beyond just

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paranormal phenomena like you know UFOs

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and Bigfoot and that's something we

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wanted to get into in our film it's

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supposed to kind of open the door to

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just how much there is going on there

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beyond what you typically think of when

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you say paranormal you know there's a

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brief mention of ghosts and hauntings

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and things like that but it goes way

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beyond that into orbs and dog man

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sightings and Thunderbirds and all kinds

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of stuff it almost sounds like almost

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another Mothman kind of situation like

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you did a film about Mothman and what

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started off is just like a sighting of a

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flying creature there are reports of

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like you said in the movie of men and

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black strange people on the highway pale

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skinned people and then UFO encounters

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like a whole almost everything anything

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you think of it was thrown at that town

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it definitely has correlations to that

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and originally invasion was the second

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part in our high strangeness trilogy

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we've changed the high strangeness title

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to be Appalachian monsters so it's gonna

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be Mothman and invasion and then the

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flatwoods monster maybe working on but

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there it's definitely got some

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correlations with Mothman it's also got

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the movie opens with some some places

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that people are very familiar with as

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being kind of beacons for strange

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activities you know you see Stonehenge

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and the Bermuda Triangle and typical

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places people think of when they think

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of hubs for weird you know paranormal

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activity and I would also compare that

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the Chestnut Ridge of that kind of thing

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you know some sort of strange

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I think Loren Coleman calls it a window

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area you know so it's almost like and in

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fact there's there's actually a story in

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the movie where the one of the witnesses

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talks about seeing and this orb moving

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through the woods at night and actually

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going into like a window into another

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dimension in the middle

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what cities all hope and all so there's

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you know we got it's it's not my comfort

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zone I'll say that like this kind of

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story is it's not my comfort zone I'm a

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big fan of like the flesh-and-blood

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creature stories but something about

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this is very intriguing to me that that

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all this stuff goes on in this one place

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what is your family think of you yeah I

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mean it just depends on which side of

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okay really yeah

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well I'm curious I mean I I mean I

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parents know I talk about some pretty

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interesting things on this show but I

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mean you're you're you're out there

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you're you're public you're making

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movies you're actually making

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well-crafted movies that you should be

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proud of and you would hope that your

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immediate family would be like yeah this

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is a well made movie or do you get those

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kind of that that's about yeah

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definitely from my immediate family like

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my parents my sisters and brother and

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and all that you know that the extended

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family in-laws kindness kind of

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occasionally that can be the case but

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but yeah I mean my mom and dad have been

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to most of the places where we filmed

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including Fouke Arkansas Pleasant they

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were there for the premiere they they

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were helping my dad held the reflector

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for interviews when I shot Beast of

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Whitehall so I mean like my parents were

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really supportive of the films and

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they're big fans they're like probably

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my biggest supporters when it comes to

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actually putting movies together than my

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crew fantastic it's absolutely fantastic

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so you don't feel like you're a complete

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outcast just a little bit of an outcast

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but that's just a little yeah that's

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good I grew up that place now I'm not

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sure if it would spoil anything or maybe

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even my I don't think you've said this

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do you bring up the I know there's been

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theories uh I guess proposed that the

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Kecksburg Bell is a actually D glocca

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the Nazi bell that was a allegedly built

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it towards the end of World War two

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yeah as as is the case with with most of

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our movies we really don't get into a

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like a lot of the theories about what

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you know what the actual

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jeans are all we really do is talk to a

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couple of the people who were there say

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this is what they saw and it was kind of

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the it was kind of the impetus for for

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ongoing activity all along the ridge

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because that really does seem to be when

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things really kicked off on the Chestnut

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Ridge Kecksburg UFO crashes just a--just

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off the ridge and from that on it was an

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ongoing one thing after the next you

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know it's it's UFOs and there's Bigfoot

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minutes it's the Thunderbirds and

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strange lights in the sky and orbs and

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so is a dog men so we we use Kecksburg

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more or less as the spot to kind of jump

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off into some of these really strange

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stories and it's it's very much a

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Halloween movie and we were aware that

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going into this I'm like I said I really

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did

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I watched freakin unsolved mysteries

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non-stop I really did I like will live

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to breathe some 80s and late 70s or

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early 80s television paranormal

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television so I watched a ton of in

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search of and a ton of unsolved

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mysteries not necessarily you know like

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rip it off or anything but more and more

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to try to understand the tone of

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storytelling and how they did go from

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one story that's completely unconnected

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to another story because that's the

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thing about a lot of these stories is

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they're not connected to anything else

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in the movie other than by the merit of

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where they took place which is on the

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Chestnut Ridge and also the tone in the

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narration goes a long way and the

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narration in your movies is very well

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done you do present it in a non biased

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way almost the way David Politis does

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with missing for oh and one where he

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does early insert his own opinions is

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this here are some facts draw from it as

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you will yeah yeah I mean I think anyone

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that that is gonna approach the subject

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and want to do it as a as a you know I

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know documentary or approach it

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objectively that's that's the only way

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to do it really what would you consider

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working

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the David Politis in doing a new missing

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four-on-one movie I'm not gonna say I

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had I had someone posting on my timeline

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that I got a I got a help David out

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because it's missing for one one movie

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didn't meet their expectations I'm like

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man I just you know as a felt as a guy

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that's been doing this for three years

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now I don't even I would never try to

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tell someone else how to make their

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movie I haven't actually been able to

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see his missing port one one movie but I

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I know the guy

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it knows what he's doing and I know his

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son is super talented as a filmmaker so

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I'm uh I would you know if he approached

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me it was like hey you want to do this I

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would probably be like you know but as

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far as like offering him tips I think I

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don't know what the heck I would say to

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that guy no well are you going to by

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chance be it MUFON in Pennsylvania and

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Greensburg this November not that I'm

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aware of

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okay okay we'll be there yeah we're

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gonna place we'll be there and we'll

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bring you up yeah we had the cocktail

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hour with all the guests I'm sure

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everybody else warm Peleus will try and

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okay I'm gonna try to get a word of that

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yes yeah I guess so yeah I got them I

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got them meet him about two years ago at

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the Bigfoot conference here in Ohio and

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he said you know it's a nice guy we

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actually were working on peace to

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Whitehall at the time and and my guy

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that does the music for the movie I went

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over and was talking to him and he was

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in the right back then he was still

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filming missing for one one so it's been

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a long road but you know the guy's gotta

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be proud of the movie right I haven't

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seen it like I said I haven't seen it

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yeah it's uh but it's really it's

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different than what I expected he just

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kind of I guess the basic premise Nick

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there's four or five cases they go her

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but there's no real I was a lot

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different than what I thought was gonna

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happen I'm assuming that's what I keep

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hearing and an editor can make a movie

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feel any which way and it probably could

539
00:23:42,910 --> 00:23:41,930
be edited totally differently but be

540
00:23:45,670 --> 00:23:42,920
that as it may

541
00:23:49,690 --> 00:23:45,680
we're talking to you right now about the

542
00:23:53,020 --> 00:23:49,700
invasion on Chestnut Ridge I'm looking

543
00:23:53,740 --> 00:23:53,030
forward to it I like this stuff I like I

544
00:23:56,890 --> 00:23:53,750
watch the

545
00:23:58,750 --> 00:23:56,900
The Legend of Boggy Creek that was on

546
00:24:00,520 --> 00:23:58,760
Amazon Prime I think it's still there I

547
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:00,530
think people can still check it out

548
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:02,930
watch the Mothman bought that one that

549
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,610
was awesome I'm looking forward to this

550
00:24:09,820 --> 00:24:06,320
one I'm gonna go back and check out some

551
00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:09,830
of your other ones as well I had a

552
00:24:14,170 --> 00:24:12,110
question if I could because you

553
00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:14,180
mentioned the parents and the family and

554
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:17,510
all that stuff and I was wondering first

555
00:24:21,340 --> 00:24:19,250
of all where did you get your skill to

556
00:24:26,020 --> 00:24:21,350
edit if I may

557
00:24:28,810 --> 00:24:26,030
he's so hot yeah yeah yeah so far and I

558
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:28,820
consider myself very unskilled and

559
00:24:33,610 --> 00:24:30,530
untalented at editing it's like my

560
00:24:35,380 --> 00:24:33,620
biggest my biggest issue is my editing

561
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:35,390
skills because we were watching we

562
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:37,730
watched Mothman this past weekend at the

563
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:39,440
cryptozoology conference and I was

564
00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:42,050
cringing through the entire movie like I

565
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:44,480
just I can't I can't go back and watch

566
00:24:49,180 --> 00:24:47,120
this stuff after it's done or or I just

567
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:49,190
want to smack myself or like hang myself

568
00:24:53,950 --> 00:24:51,200
or something guys like I just yeah

569
00:24:56,500 --> 00:24:53,960
totally self-taught um I watched a lot

570
00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:56,510
of YouTube tutorials with my free time

571
00:25:00,670 --> 00:24:58,970
so like if I'm if I'm in bed like right

572
00:25:03,580 --> 00:25:00,680
before I go to bed I'm usually laying

573
00:25:05,050 --> 00:25:03,590
there with my iPad on my lap and you

574
00:25:06,610 --> 00:25:05,060
know my headphones in out I'll watch

575
00:25:09,460 --> 00:25:06,620
some YouTube tutorials and I'm always

576
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:09,470
trying to get better at this stuff

577
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:12,170
because I'm not very good at it that's a

578
00:25:16,330 --> 00:25:14,570
that's a mate so if the second part of

579
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:16,340
my question is that that's amazing first

580
00:25:19,570 --> 00:25:17,840
of all because you obviously have a good

581
00:25:21,220 --> 00:25:19,580
fanbase people are supporting it they

582
00:25:23,890 --> 00:25:21,230
like what you do you're prolific two

583
00:25:27,490 --> 00:25:23,900
movies a year but you know what happens

584
00:25:29,230 --> 00:25:27,500
when stuff like this it becomes part of

585
00:25:32,350 --> 00:25:29,240
somebody's life you get accused of being

586
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:32,360
a shill or disinfo oh yes are you

587
00:25:36,970 --> 00:25:35,120
getting this like oh yeah I've gotten

588
00:25:39,220 --> 00:25:36,980
that since Minerva monster during

589
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:39,230
Minerva monster I was told and that was

590
00:25:43,030 --> 00:25:40,850
our first movie and we were nobody and I

591
00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:43,040
mean I'm still nobody but but we were

592
00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:46,910
told during that 17 cryptozoologist of

593
00:25:53,490 --> 00:25:48,590
the year what do you come on yeah yeah

594
00:25:55,740 --> 00:25:53,500
exactly come on Kofi you're nobody

595
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:55,750
ya know it's it's been pretty consistent

596
00:26:00,930 --> 00:25:58,240
since since Minerva I've been I've been

597
00:26:02,820 --> 00:26:00,940
accused of being a shill for the

598
00:26:05,730 --> 00:26:02,830
government of uh

599
00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:05,740
last year there was a certain fairly

600
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:07,990
well-known Mothman researcher who was

601
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:11,730
insistent that I was me and my wife were

602
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:28,799
yeah it's been pretty consistent yeah I

603
00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:31,090
was just curious about it because it's

604
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:32,710
like it's one thing your family is like

605
00:26:35,999 --> 00:26:34,210
yeah whatever he's doing his thing that

606
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:36,009
guy you know and so it's almost kind of

607
00:26:38,999 --> 00:26:37,210
normal my parents still don't know what

608
00:26:40,529 --> 00:26:39,009
I do I work in advertising and graphic

609
00:26:42,690 --> 00:26:40,539
design they're just like he does

610
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:42,700
computer stuff so that you have no

611
00:26:47,159 --> 00:26:45,090
interest but then you're you're

612
00:26:48,899 --> 00:26:47,169
absolutely like making a name for

613
00:26:52,049 --> 00:26:48,909
yourself and it's every time I see

614
00:26:54,389 --> 00:26:52,059
people who I'm a fan of get big it's

615
00:26:58,110 --> 00:26:54,399
like everybody has to talk on the do

616
00:27:00,180 --> 00:26:58,120
yeah yeah you know one of the biggest

617
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:00,190
mistakes I made or I don't think it's a

618
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:04,210
mistake but I used that as a legend but

619
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:06,850
I did that I did a podcast called SAS wa

620
00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:08,320
which was like being talking about

621
00:27:14,190 --> 00:27:10,240
Bigfoot was my buddy mark who actually

622
00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:14,200
co-wrote invasion with me and people are

623
00:27:21,090 --> 00:27:17,230
still upset at me over certain things I

624
00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:21,100
said on SAS what cuz I was I was

625
00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:23,950
extremely skeptical probably more so

626
00:27:29,070 --> 00:27:26,769
than I am now and and it's rubbed a lot

627
00:27:30,749 --> 00:27:29,080
of people the wrong way so I still get

628
00:27:32,639 --> 00:27:30,759
it I just got a message last night from

629
00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:32,649
guy running me up a flagpole or

630
00:27:36,869 --> 00:27:35,289
something he didn't like I can't I can't

631
00:27:39,090 --> 00:27:36,879
I couldn't even understand it to be on

632
00:27:41,249 --> 00:27:39,100
the Facebook message by the way private

633
00:27:44,220 --> 00:27:41,259
message just telling me now something I

634
00:27:45,779 --> 00:27:44,230
had said two years ago tick tomash well

635
00:27:52,590 --> 00:27:45,789
are you on reddit and what is your

636
00:27:55,889 --> 00:27:52,600
username I'm not don't worry

637
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:55,899
I guess well I really appreciate you

638
00:28:01,769 --> 00:27:58,090
taking the time to talk with us I'm a

639
00:28:02,999 --> 00:28:01,779
huge fan of yours you could you coulda

640
00:28:04,169 --> 00:28:03,009
said you went to film school and I would

641
00:28:06,530 --> 00:28:04,179
have believed you I'm not just kissing

642
00:28:09,770 --> 00:28:06,540
your ass because it's very well

643
00:28:12,020 --> 00:28:09,780
crafted and they are professionally

644
00:28:13,940 --> 00:28:12,030
edited and by the way the sound quality

645
00:28:15,980 --> 00:28:13,950
top-notch everything's even and

646
00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:15,990
compressed that's a big issue for me so

647
00:28:19,370 --> 00:28:17,190
you guys are doing a good job over there

648
00:28:21,530 --> 00:28:19,380
we're working on that that is our

649
00:28:23,390 --> 00:28:21,540
biggest that is our biggest issue the

650
00:28:25,970 --> 00:28:23,400
movie the movie has been our sound and

651
00:28:28,010 --> 00:28:25,980
there's that's one of the things that

652
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:28,020
was driving me crazy with Washington

653
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:29,490
Mothman the other days I feel like the

654
00:28:33,260 --> 00:28:31,770
music is way too loud during the audio

655
00:28:35,570 --> 00:28:33,270
taped interviews with the original

656
00:28:37,460 --> 00:28:35,580
witnesses and you can't even hardly hear

657
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:37,470
him that was my fault yeah I actually

658
00:28:41,810 --> 00:28:39,600
made that criticism we redid a little

659
00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:41,820
review of your of yours and I wasn't

660
00:28:46,820 --> 00:28:43,470
sure if it was due to the compression or

661
00:28:49,010 --> 00:28:46,830
normalization yeah you can over compress

662
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:49,020
some stuff it was just me it was just me

663
00:28:55,090 --> 00:28:52,290
I got and actually the reason I'm

664
00:28:56,990 --> 00:28:55,100
reading body right now is because the

665
00:28:59,630 --> 00:28:57,000
you know we signed with a major

666
00:29:01,400 --> 00:28:59,640
distributor finally and they keep seated

667
00:29:03,230 --> 00:29:01,410
like almost immediately they were like

668
00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:03,240
there's the audio hiss here there's this

669
00:29:08,270 --> 00:29:05,220
here so I'm kind of going back through

670
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:08,280
and trying to utilize all this stuff

671
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:10,290
I've picked up over the last year on

672
00:29:14,330 --> 00:29:12,720
editing and try to you know just face

673
00:29:16,790 --> 00:29:14,340
some of the little minor technical

674
00:29:18,020 --> 00:29:16,800
things with Boggy the age fixed well

675
00:29:19,580 --> 00:29:18,030
congratulations you're doing the helmet

676
00:29:23,180 --> 00:29:19,590
job everyone needs to go to small town

677
00:29:25,540 --> 00:29:23,190
monsters calm by these [\h__\h]

678
00:29:27,620 --> 00:29:25,550
movies because they're well worth it and

679
00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:27,630
support Seth you guys some t-shirts that

680
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:30,240
people can buy oh we got ya t-shirt

681
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:32,490
something wazoo I just picked up a like

682
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:34,290
400 shirts from Jack Prince today

683
00:29:42,290 --> 00:29:35,910
actually so we got three different are

684
00:29:45,380 --> 00:29:42,300
you gonna wear well yeah we just got

685
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:45,390
these cool small-town monsters Halloween

686
00:29:49,970 --> 00:29:47,850
t-shirts for sure they took my buddy

687
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:49,980
Zach actually designed it it's like it's

688
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:51,840
our production company logo you know

689
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:53,490
with the houses with the faces only

690
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:56,010
their jack-o'-lanterns so it's good it's

691
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:57,770
cool we're gonna we're gonna run those

692
00:30:03,380 --> 00:30:01,200
until they sell out well fantastic yes

693
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:03,390
small town monsters calm checkout you

694
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:05,970
can pre-order the invasion on Chestnut

695
00:30:09,740 --> 00:30:07,890
Ridge and check out all the rest of

696
00:30:11,090 --> 00:30:09,750
movies and support this guy he's doing

697
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:11,100
he's doing the work you want to do

698
00:30:17,660 --> 00:30:14,910
people but he's actually doing it so a

699
00:30:19,529 --> 00:30:17,670
one quick question I know there was a

700
00:30:20,999 --> 00:30:19,539
Kickstarter for Chestnut Ridge and

701
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:21,009
mothman but is there one for the

702
00:30:27,149 --> 00:30:23,919
flatwoods monster and the others yeah we

703
00:30:28,739 --> 00:30:27,159
are doing January 26 this is still ways

704
00:30:31,229 --> 00:30:28,749
off but we are getting ready to kick

705
00:30:33,539 --> 00:30:31,239
that off next year and it will fund

706
00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:33,549
it'll actually fund the next three Motel

707
00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:35,919
monsters movies so it'll fund on the

708
00:30:39,919 --> 00:30:37,470
trail of camp which is kind of a

709
00:30:42,450 --> 00:30:39,929
miniseries that's coming from us

710
00:30:45,419 --> 00:30:42,460
directed by my buddy Alexander penticoff

711
00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:45,429
produced by me and then flatwoods and

712
00:30:51,629 --> 00:30:48,940
then we have a third movie which will be

713
00:30:54,509 --> 00:30:51,639
our six the official weight set sorry

714
00:30:56,460 --> 00:30:54,519
seventh the seventh movie so the sixth

715
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:56,470
and seventh small town monsters movies

716
00:31:02,909 --> 00:30:59,679
will be coming in 2018 one which is

717
00:31:04,529 --> 00:31:02,919
flatwoods will be coming in April and

718
00:31:06,180 --> 00:31:04,539
then on the trail of [\h__\h]

719
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:06,190
which is a miniseries will be out in

720
00:31:10,859 --> 00:31:08,769
June and then there's a another movie

721
00:31:12,719 --> 00:31:10,869
coming next October which we'll be

722
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:12,729
announcing here soon but it's something

723
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:14,799
people have been asking us to do for a

724
00:31:18,419 --> 00:31:17,200
long time well that's awesome I mean I

725
00:31:20,159 --> 00:31:18,429
could probably ask you questions about

726
00:31:22,909 --> 00:31:20,169
what you're gonna do next all night and

727
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:22,919
blot out the wait till next time so I

728
00:31:27,659 --> 00:31:25,690
said we're scheduled through we are

729
00:31:30,239 --> 00:31:27,669
literally scheduled through 2020 right

730
00:31:31,710 --> 00:31:30,249
now so I've got a board that has pretty

731
00:31:34,289 --> 00:31:31,720
much everything we want to do between

732
00:31:36,269 --> 00:31:34,299
now and 2020 and that includes the

733
00:31:38,909 --> 00:31:36,279
guidebook that we're working on uh-huh

734
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:38,919
I'm interested in that Wow

735
00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:40,960
well congratulations thank you so much

736
00:31:44,249 --> 00:31:42,460
that I really appreciate you coming on

737
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:44,259
here and bullshitting with us that it

738
00:31:49,289 --> 00:31:45,970
really means a lot to me and we'll put

739
00:31:50,580 --> 00:31:49,299
all the links to the GoFundMe and all

740
00:31:51,869 --> 00:31:50,590
the stuff in the description so people

741
00:31:53,310 --> 00:31:51,879
can go there and support you hopefully

742
00:31:56,339 --> 00:31:53,320
the better goddamn they better goddamn

743
00:31:59,700 --> 00:31:56,349
do it alright thanks thanks for being

744
00:32:01,999 --> 00:31:59,710
supportive miss um thank you have a good

745
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:04,499
there he goes I'm gonna blow him up he

746
00:32:13,349 --> 00:32:10,609
another blunt was I being too too nice

747
00:32:16,259 --> 00:32:13,359
no I hear the right amount of nights I

748
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:16,269
think I was just I was even nice like I

749
00:32:20,580 --> 00:32:19,690
I you said his sound quality suck 19 I